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It was very odd to read this entire post. Ralf Goergens used an analogy to describe the present situation in France but in doing so gave the unintended impression, at least to me, that the French rioters have a quasi-legitimate reason to be violent. I don't think that's true.

I also disagree with his conclusion. Showing weakness in the face of public criminal activity is in no way a sensible policy. Ask yourself this: what disincentive did the rioters have to stop their carnage in the first, let's say, seven days? As far as I can see: none. Also, would you rather arrest / shoot and likely kill a rioter or let him burn a synagogue, a school, a fire truck, or multiple cars?

The openly violent areas were simply lawless. Only recently did the French make arrests. Had they been tough from the start, the rioters-in-waiting would have been discouraged. Now the ugly truth is out. The French can't deter large sections of their population. To fight a colony is one thing but to fight your own "countrymen" is civil war.

Update 08:50 PM ET
France holds talks.

Villepin, who cancelled a visit to Canada to tackle the violence, met residents from troubled neighborhoods late on Friday as part of efforts to start a dialogue. He is to publish an action plan for 750 tough districts by the end of the month.

I am sure the rioters are shaking with fear.
No Pasaran provides translation:

French president Jacques Chirac, whose silence astonished certain deputies in his own party received an offer of "aide" from Libyan leader Mouammar Kadhafi, according to Jana, the official Libyan news agency.

How bad could the Libyan "leader" be?
Captain Ed:

The police have long avoided patrols in these areas, preferring to leave the Muslims there to their own devices -- and they have understood the message: France will not fight for her own territory.

Precisely.

Comments

Ralf Goergens

I didn't mean to imply that the have a legitimate reason, semi or other wise, to riot. I just wanted to point out that the things the French used to do, and could pick up again, would be worse than too much restraint.

As to showing weakness: If they go in unprepared, and are repelled, even locally somewhere, that would be outright defeat, giving the rioters a much greater encouragement. And once they go in properly prepared , and rout the rioters, all temporary in-action will be quickly forgotten.

Isaac Schrödinger

Assuming the French go in tomorrow, are properly prepared, and rout the rioters, the lesson -- it takes the French 10 days to prepare and respond -- will not be forgotten.

I hope I'm wrong.

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